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Yay Drummers.....Help me understand this album.
cherub
1516 days ago
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I may delete this thread, who knows if this is the right place to ask this but here goes....
I'm trying to learn how to play drums. I own a yamaha dd-20c and some sticks. In addition to that, I go to the local guitar center and practice on their real sets. The pad does have a bass drum but i just tap my feet in place of the bass drum. here's a pic.
so here's what i need help with. the album is called "miscellaneous debris" and the artist is primus. it's all covers. i really like this album, and it tends to be easier for me to learn stuff that i can get in to. and i can for this. but here's the thing, is it *such* a bad idea to start with this one? i mean, i asked some people and they said bad choice to start with......but could not give me a reason. can you?
i've already started with "intruder" btw, and i feel like i've mostly got it except for the congo sounding thing near the end
any tips/advice or discussion welcome
I'm trying to learn how to play drums. I own a yamaha dd-20c and some sticks. In addition to that, I go to the local guitar center and practice on their real sets. The pad does have a bass drum but i just tap my feet in place of the bass drum. here's a pic.
so here's what i need help with. the album is called "miscellaneous debris" and the artist is primus. it's all covers. i really like this album, and it tends to be easier for me to learn stuff that i can get in to. and i can for this. but here's the thing, is it *such* a bad idea to start with this one? i mean, i asked some people and they said bad choice to start with......but could not give me a reason. can you?
i've already started with "intruder" btw, and i feel like i've mostly got it except for the congo sounding thing near the end
any tips/advice or discussion welcome
castis
1516 days ago
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are we talking about a bad album to start with or a bad kit?
cherub
1515 days ago
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they were saying bad, as in bad to learn(that album).
but i can practice on real drums, which are not bad.
but i can practice on real drums, which are not bad.
tCadieux
1515 days ago
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I dont know if primus is really the band to use to learn.
i played for 6/7 years. But I started in band and so learned all the rudiments (pick up a book on rudiments)
i played for 6/7 years. But I started in band and so learned all the rudiments (pick up a book on rudiments)
cherub
1515 days ago
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BUT WHY
EVERYBODY SAYS THAT BUT DONT GIVE A REASON
EVERYBODY SAYS THAT BUT DONT GIVE A REASON
cherub
1515 days ago
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* cherub pulls hair out
tCadieux
1515 days ago
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Start with something with a basic beat.
Know and love these:
Know and love these:
cherub
1515 days ago
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i have never seen them written like that, but i practice a few, thanks for the .jpeg.
saved.
saved.
tCadieux
1515 days ago
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They are all on youtube, with how-tos
tCadieux
1515 days ago
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Double paradiddle on left(hihat and snare), paradiddle on right(bass and floor tom)
castis
1515 days ago
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learning to play the drums to a band that plays their shit all weird (albeit awesome) is a feat and a half.
Cecily
1515 days ago
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Why learn basics and rudiments?
BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE YOU BETTER DUMMY
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BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE YOU BETTER DUMMY
-Love Reilly
cherub
1515 days ago
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^^THANK YOU
i knew there had to be a reason somewhere....
i knew there had to be a reason somewhere....
Cecily
1515 days ago
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But seriously, instead of trying to copy things you hear, you will be able to hear things and recognize them. Which is good.
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cherub
1515 days ago
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i mean, so that confirms my suspicion. that his drumming is very out of the norm. (and in my uneducated vantage point, very complex)
see i never had a "point of reference" to compare to. you ask me about guitar, and i can name some "normal" guitar styles and "not normal"
but drums kinda sounded all the same right now cuz i can't play them
see i never had a "point of reference" to compare to. you ask me about guitar, and i can name some "normal" guitar styles and "not normal"
but drums kinda sounded all the same right now cuz i can't play them
Cecily
1515 days ago
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Who's drumming?
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tCadieux
1515 days ago
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This is a nice place to start
cherub
1515 days ago
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reilly, i think tim alexander plays drums on that primus album
i'm checking right now
edit: yep, it's tim "herb" alexander playing on miscellaneous debris
i'm checking right now
edit: yep, it's tim "herb" alexander playing on miscellaneous debris
cherub
1515 days ago
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omg that paradiddle vid tcadieux posted is blowing my MIND
cherub
1515 days ago
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reilly said:
took me a few minuets to fully digest that....hehe sneaky fucker.....
ok
i think i understand now, what i've been asking about all night. correct me if i'm wrong but what you are saying is.
-even IF i spent the time to learn how to MOCK or MIMIC those difficult beats on that album. it still would not help me become better. because i still wouldn't have the rudiments. which if i knew them, then i would have a starting point, then it might make that album easier to learn. and also, other albums, which are not similar to that one, easier to learn.
and because if i used mimicry alone, each and every song i would try to learn i would have to start from scratch.
maybe the situation, is something akin to....
someone who doesn't speak english.... learning a few select sentences that mean something specific(such as: Where is the bathroom).....but not learning about what the words themselves mean, or learning any other words.
so in conclusion,
the rudiments are actually little "mini-components" present in many many songs, but we just dont realize they are there? like, "basic building blocks" of sorts???
hmmmm... very interesting
But seriously, instead of trying to copy things you hear, you will be able to hear things and recognize them. Which is good.
-Hate Reilly
took me a few minuets to fully digest that....hehe sneaky fucker.....
ok
i think i understand now, what i've been asking about all night. correct me if i'm wrong but what you are saying is.
-even IF i spent the time to learn how to MOCK or MIMIC those difficult beats on that album. it still would not help me become better. because i still wouldn't have the rudiments. which if i knew them, then i would have a starting point, then it might make that album easier to learn. and also, other albums, which are not similar to that one, easier to learn.
and because if i used mimicry alone, each and every song i would try to learn i would have to start from scratch.
maybe the situation, is something akin to....
someone who doesn't speak english.... learning a few select sentences that mean something specific(such as: Where is the bathroom).....but not learning about what the words themselves mean, or learning any other words.
so in conclusion,
the rudiments are actually little "mini-components" present in many many songs, but we just dont realize they are there? like, "basic building blocks" of sorts???
hmmmm... very interesting
Reilly
1515 days ago
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You go girl.
cherub
1515 days ago
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* cherub tries to sissyslap reilly
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1515 days ago
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I am a drummer and I learned to play by playing along to the Fugees album.
That, along with always learning new bands, is what kept me learning. Later on in my development (after 5 years or so) I went back and started learning rudiments. I was generally good at drums before that, but now I can incorporate more things into my playing thanks to studying rudiments. They were HARD to learn later in my development, but well worth it.
That, along with always learning new bands, is what kept me learning. Later on in my development (after 5 years or so) I went back and started learning rudiments. I was generally good at drums before that, but now I can incorporate more things into my playing thanks to studying rudiments. They were HARD to learn later in my development, but well worth it.
cinder
1515 days ago
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That's the gist of it, yes.
the rudiments are some of the pieces that make up a lot of music.
You can learn beats or certain songs and that's fun and it does help.
I found playing along with songs a lot more interesting than learning rudiments.
The first thing I ever learned was In Bloom by Nirvana.
I learned some Primus soon after that, too. (Pork Soda, Tales from the Punchbowl)
Their music is interesting and challenging since a good chunk of their songs are written in weird or alternating time signatures.
Same with Soundgarden . . . I played a lot of that too.
and I used to play along with Green Day Dookie as an endurance exercise :)
the rudiments are some of the pieces that make up a lot of music.
You can learn beats or certain songs and that's fun and it does help.
I found playing along with songs a lot more interesting than learning rudiments.
The first thing I ever learned was In Bloom by Nirvana.
I learned some Primus soon after that, too. (Pork Soda, Tales from the Punchbowl)
Their music is interesting and challenging since a good chunk of their songs are written in weird or alternating time signatures.
Same with Soundgarden . . . I played a lot of that too.
and I used to play along with Green Day Dookie as an endurance exercise :)
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