Herding Code 43: Javier Lozano on the "M" in MVC

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This week on Herding Code, Kevin leads a conversation with Javier Lozano on ASP.NET MVC and the Model View Controller (MVC), Model View Presenter (MVP), Model View ViewModel (MVVM) and Model Model View Controller (MMVC) patterns.

• The guys discuss the various patterns as they relate to ASP.NET MVC, Silverlight and WPF and dig into the differences between ViewModels and Models.
• Scott K brings up the question: “What’s the difference between MVC and MVP?” and then quotes Jeremy Miller in stating, “MVP denotes a stateful conversation between presenter and view whereas MVC is just linear.”
• K Scott discusses the differences between building applications “the Rails way” and how you can build any type of application any way you want with ASP.NET MVC.
• The group fields a question via Twitter from Steve Bohlen: "ask about the (relative) importance of persistence ignorance in the M in MVC."
• The guys talk at length about action filters, custom model binders and object-object mapping.
• And the show closes with Scott K reintroducing THE LIGHTNING ROUND!

Show Links:

• Javier Lozano’s Blog
• Eric Hexter’s Blog
• LosTechies
• CodePlex
• Community for MVC
• Model View Controller
• Model View ViewModel
• Model Model View Controller
• Model View Presenter
• Jeremy Miller’s Blog
• Shawn Wildermoth’s Blog
• Jimmy Bogard’s Blog
• Rob Conery’s Blog
• Chad Myer’s Blog
• Putting the M in MVC Series
• Putting the “M” Back in MVC (with SubSonic MVC Templates)
• The Power of Programming With Attributes
• Ruby on Rails
• MVC.NET 1.0
• NHibernate
• Monorail
• ActiveRecord
• Windsor
• Linq 2 SQL
• Entity Framework
• NerdDinner.com
• jQuery
• Silverlight
• WPF
• Domain Driven Design
• AutoMapper: Object-Object Mapper
• Repository Pattern
• YAGNI
• Splitting DateTime – Unit Testing ASP.NET MVC Custom Model Binders
• A Better Model Binder
• Autofac – An addictive .NET IoC Container
• David Foley
• MVC Contrib
• ASP.NET MVC Tips – Return Specific Views for Specific Errors
• Charlie the Unicorn Goes to Candy Mountain
• FubuMVC
• WCF
• Service Locator Pattern
• Action Filters
• RIA Services
• Scott Guthrie and The Other Scott

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Herding Code 43: Javier Lozano on the M in MVC

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Show notes compiled by Ben Griswold. Thanks!

10 Comments Herding Code 43: Javier Lozano on the "M" in MVC

1. Khaled Musaied

   April 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm

   

   hi,

   First thing I would like to thank you for this excellent podcasts which is my favorite technical cast ever.
   I only have one question about what you said about MVC and and the replacement on classical ASP.NET web forms,
   Is MVC applicable to build web forms on sharepoint on not?

2. David

   April 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 am

   

   Great PodCast, I have been beating myself up wondering the best use of my custom ModelBinder to bind to a fairly complex view. I can now see that having a ViewModel that uses the default ModelBinder for this sort of thing, is a much better idea.

3. David R

   May 15th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

   

   Excellent discussion on ‘M’ in MVC, it has given me a better view of creating ViewModels vs using the Domain Models. And if I heard it correctly you can use WebForms in MVC, never knew that before and will be looking at that.

   — Lighting round comment —
   (to the Intel® theme tune) Dimm, dim dim dim dimmm

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