Valerie Irvine and Jillianne Code Discussion/Experimentation Session for Change11
January 13, 2011
Following their presentation a few days earlier, Val & Jill take us on a tour of Blue Jeans and Accordent, a couple of video conferencing systems they are experimenting with at the University of Victoria
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Links & Chat Log Below
Change MOOC - Week#16 Overview: mooc.wikispaces.com/Irvine+%26+Code
Twitter
- Dr. Valerie Irvine: @_valeriei
- Dr. Jillianne Code: @jilliannec
Websites:
- TIE Lab website: tie.uvic.ca
- Dr. Valerie Irvine: www.educ.uvic.ca/virvine *note being converted to blog below
- Dr. Jillianne Code: www.jillcode.com
Blogs:
- Dr. Valerie Irvine’s blog: edtech.uvic.ca/virvine (converting so expect changes)
- Dr. Jillianne Code’s blog: edtech.uvic.ca/jcode/ (converting so expect changes)
- EDCI 336 website: edtech.uvic.ca/edci336/
Jeff | 9:26 |
Your Korea fanbase is very happy |
suifaijohnmak | 9:27 |
Hi everyone, it's 11:26 here in Sydney, good night for you in Canada, & good morning here |
Jeff | 9:27 |
Coffee time Change |
Anne-Marie | 9:27 |
Perfect time |
- ljp joined the Main Room. ( 9:27 ) -
suifaijohnmak | 9:28 |
Hi Valerie, Good to meet you here on air |
Valerie Irvine | 9:28 |
bluejeans.com/inmeeting/528551885/6196/skype |
I like Spandex and LuluLemon better | 9:28 |
suifaijohnmak | 9:28 |
Hi George and Dave, Glad to be able to attend the session, what time is it at your end? |
- vhaustudent joined the Main Room. ( 9:29 ) -
dave cormier | 9:29 |
@george lol |
George Siemens | 9:29 |
Hi John - its =7:30 pm |
George Siemens | 9:29 |
we can |
George Siemens | 9:29 |
if you're ready to go |
dave cormier | 9:29 |
we are not worried. |
ljp | 9:30 |
do we need skype for the session |
George Siemens | 9:30 |
Dave - you are such an accommodating person |
suifaijohnmak | 9:31 |
Hi George & Dave, happy new year |
I see them on Blue Jeans | 9:31 |
George Siemens | 9:32 |
Hi Dave - |
George Siemens | 9:32 |
I have a crappy connection (again) |
it was good before...suddenly plummeted | 9:32 |
Sheena | 9:33 |
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Seán Conlan | 9:33 |
Hello from Ireland |
Jill and Valerie are evil | 9:33 |
you must repent immediately or you will be sent straight to hell | 9:33 |
dave cormier | 9:33 |
george biebens |
Stephen Downes #2 | 9:33 |
Hm... Collaborate is taking over my audio, not letting me play muisic or record |
carol yeager | 9:35 |
Plunk the magic twanger, frogggggie! |
Stephen Downes #2 | 9:36 |
I want to know what it is |
dave cormier | 9:38 |
questions for our guests? |
turns out Valerie chased a robber across campus 10 minutes before our session. | 9:39 |
carol yeager | 9:40 |
I have found online learning and teaching more intensive, although, in spurts |
Sheena | 9:40 |
As a Uvic Ed. Alumni, humanities teacher in BC & MA in Learning & Technology student, I am curious to know how much influence the TIE Lab is having on UVic’s faculty of Education and the institution overall? |
Sheena | 9:40 |
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dave cormier | 9:40 |
heyo dr. jen. |
George Siemens | 9:41 |
where's the image with you and lady gaga? |
dave cormier | 9:41 |
@valerie can i ask an annoying question? |
Jillianne Code | 9:41 |
www.edtech.uvic.ca/edci336/ |
JenM | 9:42 |
@dc ... is there any other kind you ask? |
vhaustudent | 9:43 |
@carol- Yes... I have too! Maybe it's because there are more "distractions" (Oh, that sounds interesting.. let me research it/ oh, what's that? Let me look it up/ etc). Personally I find the spurts come from exhaustion which derives from the intensity to which I engage online versus face-to-face |
- Stephen Downes #2 left the Main Room. ( 9:43 ) -
JenM | 9:44 |
that wasn't at all annoying ... |
suifaijohnmak | 9:44 |
Are the technologies (softwares) all used in closed environment? Are they also open to the students (only)? |
dave cormier | 9:46 |
that's what i mean |
carol yeager | 9:46 |
@vhaustudent ... agreed, and I still enjoy f2f, blended and online ... and the participants are what make it fun! |
- Stephen Downes #3 joined the Main Room. ( 9:46 ) -
dave cormier | 9:47 |
any other questions? |
Jeff | 9:48 |
Just wondering why we're not getting any video as we use this pricey non-open video conferencing tools? |
Valerie Irvine | 9:49 |
ammscontent.uvic.ca/AccContent/20120113-162813-1/ |
suifaijohnmak | 9:49 |
How long will it take for staff/students to master the technology? |
Jeff | 9:49 |
just cick high quality |
JenM | 9:50 |
I see them ... |
carol yeager | 9:50 |
very cool |
Jillianne Code | 9:51 |
@Suifiajohnmak The ease of use is critical. So the amount of time for training is very important in evaluating the technology. |
Jeff | 9:51 |
40 seconds the last time Dave streaming - about 10 second delay with Icecast, 5 seconds with Livestream or Wowza |
- Stephen Downes #4 joined the Main Room. ( 9:51 ) -
George Siemens | 9:51 |
@downes - looks like you're having the same connectivity issues I am today... |
Stephen Downes #4 | 9:53 |
audio issues |
Jeff | 9:53 |
Your frozen in the other tool |
- George Siemens left the Main Room. ( 9:53 ) -
carol yeager | 9:53 |
and now the recording has stopped from TIE |
Stephen Downes #4 | 9:53 |
I used to be able to record Elluminate, & broadcast it over Ed Radio |
Jeff | 9:54 |
Can we have a run down of functionality and prices for this tool |
carol yeager | 9:54 |
OK, back again |
Jeff | 9:54 |
I see there's a slide show |
dave cormier | 9:54 |
@stephen... that's really annoying |
Jeff | 9:54 |
can participants chat or grab the audio/video? |
Valerie Irvine | 9:54 |
ammscontent.uvic.ca/AccContent/20120113-165322-1/ |
JenM | 9:56 |
this is EdTechTalk circa 2005 ... "can you hear me now?" |
Jeff | 9:56 |
Do you have to pay extra for these Elluminate 'managed services'? |
Valerie Irvine | 9:56 |
I'll answer the cost issue next |
Stephen Downes #4 | 9:56 |
yup |
Valerie Irvine | 9:57 |
bluejeans.com/inmeeting/528551885/6196/skype |
Stephen Downes #4 | 9:57 |
lol |
I am wondering whether Blackboard didn't deliberately do this | 9:57 |
dave cormier | 9:58 |
@stephen say it isn't so |
suifaijohnmak | 9:59 |
As I clicked the link later than was expected, I have got a lag in the video & audio and so both audios coming out - one from Bluejean another from Elluminate. How to fix it? |
Jeff | 10:00 |
you can mute the audio via Blue Jeans and Accordent |
No delay via blue jeans, but rest of Elluminate folks aren't there | 10:00 |
as many as possible, until we break the internet! | 10:01 |
dave cormier | 10:01 |
BREAK THE INTERNET |
jeff... you wanna come in and comment on this? | 10:01 |
dave cormier | 10:02 |
you've probably webcasted more than anyone |
suifaijohnmak | 10:02 |
But I want to watch the Blue Jean & listen, and chat here in Elluminate stream |
Jeff | 10:02 |
I'm OK making snarky comments here |
dave cormier | 10:03 |
@jeff yes. i see. |
@drjenm what about you? | 10:03 |
Jeff | 10:03 |
should be doable john - no video via blue jeans yet though |
current video via accordent - just need to mute audio at the bottom of that window | 10:03 |
dave cormier | 10:04 |
EYE ROLL |
see me. i am rolling my eyes | 10:04 |
- Mary left the Main Room. ( 10:04 ) -
suifaijohnmak | 10:04 |
@Jeff @Dave |
dave cormier | 10:05 |
red is bad |
ljp | 10:05 |
I haven't really got anything to work, blue jeans, skype |
Sheena | 10:06 |
are online offerings being promoted anymore than traditional f2f courses? |
Stephen Downes #4 | 10:06 |
We must all make sacrifices... |
in oder to ensure bank CEO bonuses continue uniterrupted | 10:06 |
Sheena | 10:07 |
generally at UVic |
suifaijohnmak | 10:07 |
Is this different to "connected classroom" in terms of technology? |
ljp | 10:09 |
I've got the participant screen but skype doesn't connect and I don't have a room id and I don't know which I should be trying to use. I don't have a webcam. I do have audio -- real time and lagged -- I think through Elluminate |
Jeff | 10:10 |
Can we see video via Blue Jeans - saw it briefly before and it looked sharper than Accordent (and more in sync with audio) |
connected, but video not currently activated | 10:10 |
- Joe Dillon left the Main Room. ( 10:12 ) -
Jeff | 10:12 |
yep, got all three |
Jillianne Code | 10:12 |
Here's the link again: bluejeans.com/inmeeting/528551885/6196/skype |
ljp | 10:12 |
I can see the Change 11 Discussion connected with the link given. Is that blue jeans? |
Jeff | 10:12 |
computer is fine, brain is a bit scrambled |
Stephen Downes #4 | 10:13 |
I trued to call, Skype decided to reinstall - it has been that kind of day |
Valerie Irvine | 10:13 |
bc.net |
ljp | 10:14 |
The new link worked. |
Sheena | 10:14 |
https://wiki.bc.net/atl-conf/display/Services/Cloud-based+Videoconferencing+Service |
- vhaustudent left the Main Room. ( 10:15 ) -
ljp | 10:15 |
Stephen the image with the ladies is a lot better |
Sheena | 10:16 |
good times attempting to try everything |
Jeff | 10:18 |
screengrab comparison of accordent and blue jeans: jefflebow.net/temp/accordent-skype-comparison.png |
carol yeager | 10:19 |
nice, jeff, thx |
Jeff | 10:20 |
not attacking... comparing, contemplating (especially the insane prices
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