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A blog for people with a critically rational individualist perspective. We are developing the social individualist meta-context for the future. From the very serious to the extremely frivolous... lets see what is on the mind of the Samizdata people.

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[Russ.,= self-publishing house]
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February 24, 2006
Friday
 
 
No burka on free speech...
Perry de Havilland (London)  Activism
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... but the Dissident Frogman is still waiting for someone to give him the suitable translations for his banners in Arabic. Any takers?

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Try Arabic-speaking Jews, the same ones who were snubbed by the FBI even after 9/11


Posted by Coydog at February 24, 2006 10:22 PM
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Well if you know any, please point them at Dissident Frogman's site.


Posted by Perry de Havilland at February 24, 2006 10:53 PM
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Well, if you are living in London, you could always go down to Edgware Road and ask anyone of a Middle Eastern appearance if they would be so kind as to translate the text for you. But I would strongly advise that you wear a stab-proof vest and be prepared to run FAST.... very FAST. Live dangerously, if it is life you truly seek. That's what the philosopher Nietzsche said.

Edgeware Road.. that's where you wonna be.

PS. You may need a stiff drink afterwards.


Posted by Samsung at February 24, 2006 11:16 PM
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Samsung - what a vapid, pointless comment.

The Dissident Frogman was brave enough to design these posters (and a Mohammad cartoon) and run them on his site. Perry & Co have run them here. I do not think they were unaware of the risks.

Silly little in-jokes about the composition of the population on Edgware Road contribute what, exactly?


Posted by Verity at February 24, 2006 11:27 PM
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Maybe one day I should publish a 'best of' article with all the threats and hate mail Samizdata gets (90% of which arrived in the last few weeks after I published the 'Satanic Cartoons') :-)


Posted by Perry de Havilland at February 25, 2006 12:07 AM
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Perry

Bring it on!


Posted by Pete_London at February 25, 2006 12:23 AM
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Second!


Posted by Joshua at February 25, 2006 12:52 AM
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Yes, Perry, do it! I'd LOVE to see it!


Posted by Denise at February 25, 2006 01:12 AM
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Love to see it. Especially the hilariously bad English and all the cussing.

Try Proz.com for a translation. It is the largest online translation community.


Posted by Nick M at February 25, 2006 02:04 AM
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Maybe a tad offtrack but do go to The Philadelphia Enquirer & read the review of Bruce Bawer's "While Europe Slept."


Posted by permanent expat at February 25, 2006 03:04 AM
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Sounds like a fun read, Perry.


Seen on EBay:
Cashing in on the Satanic Cartoons with um art?....

**Warning: May be offensive to the overly sensitive

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7391689482&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1


Posted by Ross Maartin at February 25, 2006 10:48 AM
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PdH: Sure! - Is there any fun to be had from the remaining 10% of non-cartoon-related hate mail? I've seen plenty of Mohammed related nonsense to last me the next six months.


Posted by mike at February 25, 2006 11:25 AM
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I deleted most of them but I just went back and recovered a few which were less that 30 days old... when I have a moment I will try to cobble together a 'best of' posting (I think there is one clear winner which more or less says "Islam is the religion of peace and we will kill you if you disrespect it").


Posted by Perry de Havilland at February 25, 2006 11:33 AM
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"Islam is the religion of peace and we will kill you if you disrespect it"

PdH: and didn't you say your t-shirt printers (who supplied the samizdata t-shirts) refused to publish t-shirts with the mo cartoons? Well maybe they'll print slogans like that!


Posted by mike at February 25, 2006 11:51 AM
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Might be worth checking out some Arabic DTP bureaus who I'm sure could provide an EPS of the required text in a suitable Arabic font. A quick Google produces this [link] result at pretty cheap rates.


Posted by Julian Taylor at February 25, 2006 11:59 AM
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You could always get in touch with the guys from Silent Running; Murray specifically who has his line of t-shirts that have been translated,


Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge at February 25, 2006 12:44 PM
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So. Yahoo has unbanned allah as an email address. Good news for Allah! Now he can get emails!

Dissident - we have a linguist who used to post here a lot. Mark. I don't remember his whole email address, but I think it was Mark@otherlanguages ... don't remember the rest, but another commentator, or Perry, might. He's fluent in six or seven European languages, but he mixes in the language community, so to speak, and I'll bet he would know of someone with excellent Arabic who would be only too pleased ...


Posted by Verity at February 25, 2006 01:24 PM
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It may be otherlanguages.org


Posted by Verity at February 25, 2006 01:29 PM
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The Jylland-Posten has just won an award.
The Victor Prize, named for the late editor-in-chief of Ekstra Bladet Victor Andreasen, was handed to Jyllands-Postens editor Carsten Juste.

This prize is awarded to Jyllands-Posten for its adamant defence for months of freedom of expression, which is under threat, Engell told AFP. Jyllands-Posten only did its duty: exercise its right to freedom of expression, he added.

Juste, guarded by two secret service bodyguards, noted how fragile freedom of expression is as he accepted the award, his newspaper reported.

(Link) Damn! - those Danes are righteous dudes!

Hat tip: LGF


Posted by Verity at February 25, 2006 01:49 PM
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It's good to know that just like the newspaper, the Danish Prime Minister also refuses to apologize for the publication of the cartoons. It's nice to know that there are still leaders out there who refuse to give up free speech for PC crap. Kudos to him.


Posted by Denise at February 25, 2006 11:52 PM
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The Danes drove their Nazi occupiers to distraction, so what hope has a bunch of Islamofacist twits?


Posted by Dale Amon at February 26, 2006 12:05 AM
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Denise says, of Mr Rasmussen: It's nice to know that there are still leaders out there who refuse to give up free speech for PC crap.

No, Denise. There are no "leaders like him". There is but one. His name is Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

In a world of over 300 countries, there is one head of government who will not bend in his commitment to freedom of expression. One man.


Posted by Verity at February 26, 2006 12:06 AM
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try getting in touch with the people at apostates of islam they can probably help


Posted by Alain at February 26, 2006 02:04 PM
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Manjit Irshad up in Toronto might do it. God knows, she believes in free speech - non-stop.


Posted by Verity at February 26, 2006 04:10 PM
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I've privately contacted a friend who might be able to help with the Arabic version, and let DF know.

As for myself, well, after much obsessive translation and rewriting, I've submitted the Japanese version of the banner slogans to DF.


Posted by Russell Whitaker at March 1, 2006 08:46 AM
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