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Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Mr-914 » March 13th, 2012, 7:33 pm
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Ignore all the Nissan BS. The engine is built by RML in the UK and badged as a Chevy in touring car racing, a Nissan here.
Very cool concept. Half the power, weight and fuel consumption of a Le Mans prototype, but promising equal performance. It will run as an unclassified prototype in June.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Cyberdemon » March 14th, 2012, 8:51 am
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It'd be better if they demanded the driver have pointy ears on his helmet to assist with aerodynamics.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by devonshire » March 14th, 2012, 9:15 am
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Looks like they found a use for this 2 year old indy car concept. It will be interesting to see how it fares, I will be rooting for it to win. I would like to see it on a autox track though.
www.google.com/imgres?q=indy+car ... 9,r:9,s:18
www.google.com/imgres?q=indy+car ... 9,r:9,s:18
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by devonshire » March 14th, 2012, 9:22 am
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Not exactly the same, but you see the design influence-
And the famous "Flying Doorstop"
And the famous "Flying Doorstop"
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Lmo » March 14th, 2012, 11:36 am
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yeah, but with the exception of the STP Lotus 56 they are all straight-line machines.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Mr-914 » March 14th, 2012, 11:39 am
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Lew: Yeah...I'm curious to see this thing go through the chicane at Le Mans. Three wheelers don't have the greatest history of cornering.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by devonshire » March 14th, 2012, 11:49 am
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It looks like the front is widened from the indy car version. Turns out Dan Gurneys shop built the car, and it is powered by a turbo Juke engine making 300bhp. It is racing as a concept and not entered for trophies.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Lmo » March 14th, 2012, 12:19 pm
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1964: I was 13 years old at the time, and got to see what is probably the most unorthodox car ever to touch bricks at Indianapolis during time trials. Talk about inspiration. I have no clue what it was; it's almost like he invented this totally outrageous chassis, but forgot it needed a driver. It got backed into the wall on the final day of qualifications and never competed. A.J. Foyt won (his second) Indianapolis 500 in this year with an average speed of 147.36 mph.
Can you imagine driving this car, in that completely exposed position, with drum brakes. Different times. . ...
Smokey Yunick/George Hurst Shifter Sidecar
1964 was also the year Eddie Sachs and Dave Mcdonald were incinerated on turn four. My dad and two of his friends were seated about fifty feet from the barrier fence at the secondary point of impact (when Macdonald's car careened into Sachs). They were covered in oily soot when he got home; dad never attended another 500.
edit - don't know why I posted this... growing up near Indianapolis, it always has me thinking about the track at this time of year; even after almost fifty years... ..
Can you imagine driving this car, in that completely exposed position, with drum brakes. Different times. . ...
Smokey Yunick/George Hurst Shifter Sidecar
1964 was also the year Eddie Sachs and Dave Mcdonald were incinerated on turn four. My dad and two of his friends were seated about fifty feet from the barrier fence at the secondary point of impact (when Macdonald's car careened into Sachs). They were covered in oily soot when he got home; dad never attended another 500.
edit - don't know why I posted this... growing up near Indianapolis, it always has me thinking about the track at this time of year; even after almost fifty years... ..
Lew Morris
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Scott Bennett » March 14th, 2012, 12:54 pm
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I understand the vehicle dynamics theory behind this thing, but it still just seems intuitively wrong.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Cyberdemon » March 14th, 2012, 3:05 pm
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That side car reminds me very much of this guy:
www.dpcars.net/
Without the shell it's a 4 wheeled motorcycle with you just being the dangly bit off the side.
www.dpcars.net/
Without the shell it's a 4 wheeled motorcycle with you just being the dangly bit off the side.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Mr-914 » March 14th, 2012, 3:45 pm
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Lew: If you can find it, watch the doc on the 1955 Le Mans disaster. Very scary.
Ray Jepson
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Lmo » March 14th, 2012, 6:21 pm
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Really graphic, don't think I need to post it. Easy to find on YT if anyone is interested.. . .
In fact, I'm going to delete the Indy vid right now.
In fact, I'm going to delete the Indy vid right now.
Lew Morris
"The beautiful yacht may not be the fastest, but in my experience,
like the beautiful woman, she usually is". - L. Francis Herreschoff
"The beautiful yacht may not be the fastest, but in my experience,
like the beautiful woman, she usually is". - L. Francis Herreschoff
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by NURB » March 14th, 2012, 7:46 pm
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Yeah, that indy vid was crazy. Kind of like the Dan Wheldon crash earlier this year.
That side car set up is pretty sweet. And like Scott said, I get why they did it but it does just seem wrong.
That side car set up is pretty sweet. And like Scott said, I get why they did it but it does just seem wrong.
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by Lmo » March 14th, 2012, 8:33 pm
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okay, I'll bite... why did they do it (the Nissan)?
Lew Morris
"The beautiful yacht may not be the fastest, but in my experience,
like the beautiful woman, she usually is". - L. Francis Herreschoff
"The beautiful yacht may not be the fastest, but in my experience,
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Re: Neat car - Delta wing Le Mans racer
by devonshire » March 15th, 2012, 7:06 am
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Here is a bit on it
www.cardesignnews.com/site/home/ ... tem254255/
And their web site
deltawingracing.com/
Must of been cool to actuall see the side pod car when it was new!! I read about it (years after the fact) and I don't think it is in the indy museum? Those were the days of creativity!
Mickey Thopmsons rear engine Harvey Aluminum cars were pretty cool also, but they would n't let him run the small dia tire, and the large dia tires made the cars unstable.
Dave Mcdonalds car was #84 MT Harvey Aluminum car.
www.cardesignnews.com/site/home/ ... tem254255/
And their web site
deltawingracing.com/
Must of been cool to actuall see the side pod car when it was new!! I read about it (years after the fact) and I don't think it is in the indy museum? Those were the days of creativity!
Mickey Thopmsons rear engine Harvey Aluminum cars were pretty cool also, but they would n't let him run the small dia tire, and the large dia tires made the cars unstable.
Dave Mcdonalds car was #84 MT Harvey Aluminum car.
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