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Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Daniel Summars - Saturday, 5 February 2011, 01:49 PM
 

NOTE: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
Perhaps it's time to find out.

Please write your state and federal politicians and post their responses (or lack-of any response) here in this forum
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That will help us to build a Grade-Card database showing all Congress persons' position on our right to an Article V Convention. We need everyone's help, because politicians typically won't respond to questions from people outside their district or state. NOTE: Multiple responses from several people for the same Congress persons are welcome and encouraged, because it will help confirm the facts.
Thank you!


I wrote my Senators (Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R- TX) and Senator John Cornyn (R- TX) ) and Representative (Representative Michael Burgess (R - 26)) on 01-July-2007. I'm still awaiting a reply. Please feel free to use the template letter below.

Dear Senator / Representative [insert name here],

What is your position on Article V of the Constitution?

(1) Do you think Congress and the Supreme Court have the right to veto and ignore the states' and the peoples' right to an Article V Convention? Already, the legislatures of ALL 50 states have made over
400+ requests on things ranging from Term-Limits, Balanced-Budget-Amendment, to Tax Reform. Isn't the Constitution the "Supreme Law of the Land"?

(2) Do you believe Congress is currently obligated (per Article V) to call a convention now, since ALL 50 states have already submitted
400+ Article V applications? If not, then what law allows Congress to ignore Article V of the Constitution of the United States?

Please let me know.

Also, are you aware of these original copies of the
400+ requests from ALL 50 states (FOAVC.ORG/file.php/1/Amendments)?

Thank you,

[Your Name]
[Your E-Mail Address]
[Your Address]
FOAVC.ORG

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eRe: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Sunday, 1 July 2007, 03:21 PM
 

Thank you, Daniel, for providing the form letter above.  I have sent it via email to Senators Bayh and Lugar on 7-1-2007.  I have yet to receive a reply.  Perhaps because it does not include a pay raise.

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Administrator NumberTwo - Sunday, 1 July 2007, 03:29 PM
 

Michael wrote: Perhaps because it does not include a pay raise.
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Hey Michael, 
That's about it. By the way, did you know Congress just gave itself its 9th raise (between 1997 and 2007)?

So, how are things goin' there in Indiana.
Did you ever get that complete list of local governments?
If not, check this out:  www.statelocalgov.net/

Michael, Thanks for contacting your Congress persons.
It will be interesting to hear Evan Bayh's and Richard Lugar's response (if any).
I also haven't heard from my Congress persons either.
If the majority of Congress persons support Article V, then it seems to me the Supreme Court will have a hard time ignoring Article V. And if the majority of Congress persons oppose Article V, then the majority of Congress is violating the Constitution.  Unfortunately, there are some Amendments that most (if not all) in Congress will never allow (e.g. Term-Limits, Balanced Budget, One-Purpose-Per-BILL, Campaign Finance Reform, Tax Reform, Election Reform, Ethics Reform, Forfeited Pensions upon conviction of a felony, etc.).   It is because too many (if not all) politicians of both parties in Congress are so corrupt and irresponsible, they are unlikely to ever allow any common-sense, no-brainer reforms that may even remotely reduce the politicians' power, or reduce their opportunities for self-gain, or reduce the security of their cu$hy, coveted incumbencies (enjoying a cuShy 90% re-election rate). 

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 06:08 PM
 

Yes!  That is what's so frustrating about this amendment thing.  If government wants to amend the constitution, government amends the constitution!  Just like that. 

Someone pointed out that the 16th amendment was ratified by a republican congress, yet it was (so called) ratified by the states during Woodrow Wilson's presidency,  six years later.  And many state documents pertaining to the state's ratification are unsubstanciated.  The wording of the law was changed in the state's version and considered a radification of the 16th amendment. 

The wording of the amendment cannot be changed.  It must be ratified by the states as presented to the states.

Serious examination of the state's ratification of the 16th amendment must be undertaken before an article V convention takes place. 

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Daniel Summars - Thursday, 2 August 2007, 08:12 AM
 

Yes, it is very frustrating. It is only one of many ways revealing how arrogant and irresponsible our politicians have become. Congress thinks only they are allowed to make admendments, and are ignoring 567 requests by ALL 50 state legislatures to make amendments.  That is a violation of the Constitution and the Supreme Court that also chose to ignore the states' constitutional right clearly stated in Article V of the Constitution.  That's why I believe we need to build a list (i.e. an Article V Grade Card) of politicians that either support or oppose the citizens' constitutional right to an Article V Convention.  Then, come election 2008, we'll know exactly who to stop re-electing.  Congress will continue to ignore the Constitution as long as we repeatedly reward them for it; letting them enjoy a cu$hy 90% to 95% re-election rate since 1996. One thing is for certain.  Federal and State politicians will NEVER take the citizens of the nation seriously as long as the citizens (200 million eligible voters) repeatedly reward politicians by repeatedly re-electing them and blindly pulling the party lever; empowering the two-party duopoly's stranglehold. 
Especially those that oppose our constitutional right to an Article V Convention.
By the way, many of the states' legislatures have requested tax reforms (among a number of different reforms), but Congress ignores them.  Congress ignores anything that may even remotely reduce their power, opportunities for self-gain (e.g. campaign finance reform), or the security of their cu$hy, coveted incumbencies. They have stacked the deck, making it very difficult to unseat; giving enormous advantages to the incumbent, and raising many barriers to challengers; even blocking access to the ballots for many third party and independents.

By the way, my Congress persons (Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Sen. John Cornyn, and Rep. Micheal Burgess) still have not responded to the letter above. It would be interesting to know what they think when people all over start asking them why they are ignoring our Constitutional right; clearly spelled out in Article V ?

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Sunday, 1 July 2007, 05:59 PM
 

www.cityofknox.net/ 

This is an interesting city in the county of Starke, in northern Indiana.  It's a small city, 3000+ people.  The county seat of Starke.  Starke County has a population of around 27,100.

It's not a bad place to live...  I take that back.  Austrialia sounds good to me now.

This mayor and this city/county government wouldn't have the slightest idea what Article V of the U.S. Constitution is.  They are more concerned with the height of the grass in the neighbor's yard.  They are really involved with manipulation the property tax while accumulating as much property as they can via an E.D.I.T. income tax.

They use this tax to buy property but they never let go of it.  They just keep taking our payroll taxes to fund the purchase of property and the property sits, unproductive.  It's considered an asset by the local government and no taxes are paid on this property.

Hmmm.

My home is next to an extinct glove manufacturing plant.  The "Pariso Glove Factory" produced knitted gloves for the automobile manufacturing plants in this area. 

A union convinced the workforce to insist on higher wages and the "Pariso Glove Factory" was out a' bidnes in just 2 years.  A shame.  The government sold the assetts to pay back taxes and the government still holds the property some 15 years later.

If any Article V convention were to be held, it must be held by people who are NOT lawyers, who are NOT politicians.  The First Article V Convention should be held by delegates chosen by a random selection from a pool of valid SSN's.

We must first validate the ssn's, or find another way of validating the ratification process.

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Daniel Summars - Monday, 2 July 2007, 09:18 AM
 

Property taxes are too high, and getting higher in many places.
My property tax on my modest middle-class home is $310 per month.
That's more than the monthly electricity bill, which has doubled (14.7 cents per KWH) in the past two years.

Your story about the "Pariso Glove Factory" is a story that is playing out all across the nation for decades.  The corpocrisy and corporatism is yet another manifestation of unchecked greed.  It's not a global village. It's global pillage.  Some corporations are essentially given tax breaks for moving out of the country.  And then there's war profiteering . . . much of which is non-competitive (i.e. no bid) cost+plus contracts by corporations. It's hard not to see it as a corporatized war.  Since Halliburton's old CEO, buckshot Cheney got into office, Halliburton has received a 600% increase in government contracts (including $10 billion in Pentagon contracts).  In return, Halliburton has delivered gas-price gouging, contaminated food & water to our troops, a consistent pattern of over-charging, hiring 3rd world laborers and Iraqis, and (according to the Hightower report) paying them as little as $5 per day while billing the government (us taxpayers) $55 per day.  Meanwhile, Halliburton's 2006 profits were $2,348,000,000.00  (an increase of 368%).  Also, federal investigators found $10 billion in waste and overcharges by various contractors, and Halliburton was responsible for $2.7 billion of those over-charges.

Corpocrisy and corporatism is rampant and just another manifestation of unchecked greed.  They are selling us out, and we're selling ourselves out by repeatedly rewarding their puppets (i.e. politicians) by repeatedly re-electing them.

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Wednesday, 4 July 2007, 09:06 AM
 

smokytown.typepad.com/smokytown/2000/05/index.html

A little piece of the history of Starke County, Indiana.

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Monday, 2 July 2007, 04:04 PM
 

Below is a reply to the form letter I sent to Senator Evan Bayh asking for his position on an Article V convention.

Dear Mr. Densmore :

 

Thank you for contacting me regarding next year's proposed federal Budget. I appreciate hearing your thoughts and understand your concerns on this issue.

 

As you may know, on March 23, 2007 the Senate passed, with my support, a budget resolution which funds our nation's priorities, provides tax relief to middle class families and restores fiscal responsibility to our budget process. Increasing debt and deficits are very troubling to me, and they will have a lasting impact on America 's future unless the President and Congress begin to seriously address our nation's fiscal challenges.

 

The Senate budget resolution would balance the budget by fiscal year 2012 by adhering to the Pay-As-You-Go rule, which requires that the cost of any increase in entitlement spending or tax cut be offset by reductions in other entitlements or increases in other taxes.  At the same time, the Senate budget allows for significant increases for our most important domestic priorities, including the Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), Medicare, education, and veterans' healthcare.

During consideration of the budget, I joined five other Democrats in offering an amendment to make permanent a number of middle-class tax cuts. The amendment, which passed the Senate by 97-1, made permanent the 10% tax bracket, child tax credit, marriage penalty relief, adoption tax credit, dependent care credit, employer provided child care credit, and EITC combat pay. I will continue to work hard in Washington to provide the tax relief American families need.

 

It is also troubling to me that the federal government is now borrowing billions each year from foreign creditors, such as the Chinese and Japanese Central banks. The growing indebtedness of our country to foreign competitors raises troubling questions of American independence and the ability of foreign countries to influence our economic and trade policies in ways that might not be in our national interest. In order to avoid this threat to our national interest, I will continue to work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to enact sound fiscal policies that do not pass today's burden on to our children and grandchildren.

 

I will fight to make sure we keep our promises with essential federal programs like Social Security and Medicare, which provide critical support for our nation's elderly. I also support the need to make critical investments in our children, which is why I support additional funding for education and job training. The tax code should also be fair, which is why I have supported the extensions of the middle-class tax cuts such as the marriage penalty relief and child tax credit provisions.

 

Now is a time for tough choices. With the baby boom retirement looming and the continued costs of the War on Terror, we cannot afford to waste taxpayer money on ineffective federal programs or corporate subsidies. For that reason, I will work in a bipartisan manner with my colleagues to reduce unnecessary spending and close unfair tax loopholes.

 

Again, thank you for contacting me. I hope that the information I have provided is helpful. My website, bayh.senate.gov , can provide additional details about legislation and state projects, and you can also sign up to receive my monthly e-newsletter, The Bayh Bulletin , by clicking on the link at the top of my homepage. I value your input and hope you will continue to keep me informed of the issues important to you.




Office of Senator Evan Bayh
(202) 224-5623
Russell 463
Washington, D.C. 20510

 
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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Weary Willie - Monday, 2 July 2007, 04:29 PM
 

I am waiting for replies from Rep. Joe Donnally, and Senator Richard Lugar.

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Re: Do you know your Congress persons' position on Article V of the Constitution?
by Administrator NumberTwo - Monday, 2 July 2007, 05:06 PM
 

Senator Evan Bayh did not even answer your question.
Just more evidence that our politicians are ignoring us.
Senator Evan Bayh is either ignoring the question or never read your question.
This is common. They just send back a form letter (if anything).

I suspect we will get a lot of that sort of thing.
Perhaps we'll just record his response as REFUSED TO RESPOND.
However, if I get one like that from one of my Congress persons, I'm going to keep bugging them until they answer the question. 
Perhaps the problem is that they do not want voters to know that they are in favor of violating the constitution.

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