KompoZer 0.8b3

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By Kazé on Tuesday, March 2 2010, 18:18 :: Permalink

We’ve just released KompoZer 0.8b3:

kompozer-0.8b3.en-US.win32.exe (Windows™ installer)
kompozer-0.8b3.en-US.win32.zip (Windows™ archive)
kompozer-0.8b3.en-US.mac-universal.dmg (Mac OS X™)
kompozer-0.8b3.en-US.gcc4.2-i686.tar.gz (GNU/Linux)
kompozer-0.8b3-src.tar.bz2 (source tarball)

Localized binaries are available on the official download page: kompozer.net/download.php.

This maintainance release fixes two regressions that have been introduced in the previous beta:

bug #2957813, the "Source" mode was not applying modifications properly
bug #2959534, the "class" drop-down list was broken by a dirty attempt to make it UTF8-friendly

I didn’t want to take the risk of addressing other bugs but I did work on bug 1831943 by disabling line wrapping for Asian users. The relevant preference (editor.htmlWrapColumn) it now set to zero for Chinese (zh-CN, zh-TW) and Japanese (ja) builds, and it should be read properly by KompoZer — both when switching to “Source” mode and when saving HTML documents. This is still experimental, so your feedback will be welcome.

We’ve spent a few hours designing a bash/python script to make localized binaries for the 18 languages that are currently supported by KompoZer. This script works fine on Linux and OSX and it can build win32 installers by launching the InnoSetup compiler through Wine. It also checks that I haven't forgotten to include the MSVC7 DLLs in the win32 binaries, which should avoid us a few bad surprises for the next releases…

For the next beta we’ll focus on the “Source” view and the FTP module. We’ll do our best to release it in March.

EDIT In case you’ve downloaded a Windows build with missing MSVC7 dlls, I’ve just changed the path of all Windows binaries on SourceForge. Please download KompoZer 0.8b3 again, the problem should be solved. Sorry for the trouble. :-/

Comments

1. On Tuesday, March 2 2010, 23:42 by javalady

I'm using Win 7 64bit... downloaded Kompozer... would not finish the install "msvcr70.dll is missing from your computer - try re-installing the program to fix this problem"... I tried and it did not work.
Is there a version of Komposer that WILL work in Win 7 64 bit?
Thank you.

2. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 00:58 by Kazé

javalady: I forgot to ship the MSVC7 dlls when I uploaded the first Windows binaries on SourceForge. This has been reported on Mozilla-Italia and I’ve corrected the problem a few hours ago.

Please download KompoZer 0.8b3 again and tell me if it works. Maybe the version you’re downloading is still in your browser cache, so you’ll might have to use another browser (or another profile on your browser, e.g. privacy mode) to get the corrected build.

I hope I won’t have to upload the Windows binaries to a different location to force the mirrors to update to the new version. *sigh*

3. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 04:44 by javalady

Kaze..it worked this time... opened right up; now I'll work with it and see if I have any problems! If there are any tips I need to know..tell me.
Kudos to you for being so quick with the 'fix'... will recommend this!

4. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 06:56 by D2149

My entire site was built from the ground up using your application. Having upgraded to OSX Snow Leopard and finding that my licensed copy of Dreamweaver no longer would open, I needed to find something for FREE that came as close as possible. Kompozer is by far the best WSIWYG editor I have found to date.

My biggest gripe with it so far is its complete lack of ability to handle GUI editing of tables. Unless I am missing something here I can't...

1) Grab a table border and drag it bigger or smaller.
2) I can't copy a table and paste it into another location or page. (The COPY command doesn't even work when a table is selected).

I have to ask WHY doesn't Kompozer offer these two simple and obviously often needed features?

I have found this to really hamper my web development speed as compared to how fast I could work with Dreamweaver.

Thanks in advance for any insight into why the current versions do not allow this kind of table editing.

Cheers.

[]Rick.

5. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 12:24 by Kazé

1) Grab a table border and drag it bigger or smaller.

See the rules in the top / left edges of the window? Click in a table cell then drag the rulers to resize it.

2) I can't copy a table and paste it into another location or page. (The COPY command doesn't even work when a table is selected).

Select a table by clicking on the <table> item in the status bar or in the DOM Explorer. Copy, paste, done.

I have to ask WHY doesn't Kompozer offer these two simple and obviously often needed features? I have found this to really hamper my web development speed as compared to how fast I could work with Dreamweaver.

I’d recommend to register at WYSIFA (or another support forum), where a lot of skilled contributors will help you using KompoZer. I’m afraid I don’t have much time for user support — especially on this webblog.

If you're still using tables for your page layouts, I’d strongly suggest to have a closer look at CSS and <div>-based layouts: that would save you a *lot* of time.

Unless somebody gives me a DreamWeaver-like budget, table management won’t be a priority for KompoZer, sorry. And even is I had such a budget, I’d still think I should rather invest it to ease the use of <div>-based layouts instead of improving table management. ;-)

6. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 15:52 by Heikki Jussila

When installing the b3 windows version, I found that if you use the "normal" position (Program Folder) Kompozer.exe needs admin rights to run on Windows Vista, even after installing as an admin.
However, if you install it e.g. Users\<user name>\<Local Programs Folder>\Kompozer\ the need for admin rights does not exit as <user name> becomes the owner. Is this by design of the installer? If so its a bit confusing as the zip version (even unzipped in program folder runs ok) and yes I am admin of this Vista machine.
Install works ok in Windows XP though.

7. On Wednesday, March 3 2010, 19:11 by Kazé

@Heikki > I wasn't aware of that. Nobody in the small KompoZer team uses Windows, and it’s the first time we provide installers for this platform, so we’ve probably missed something.

Do you *always* have to start Kompozer as admin on Vista, or do you just need to run it *once* as admin? The whole profile data is stored in the user “Application Data” folder, but the main app might have to create files in the “Programs” folder at first start.

Thanks for your input, I’ll have a closer look at that.

8. On Thursday, March 4 2010, 15:20 by Norman

I was desperately searching the internet for a Mac-compatible web-creation application and stumbled onto KompoZer. Within 30 minutes of downloading and installing it, I was enjoying a glorious Eureka! moment and began thanking whatever software gods exist on whatever digital Olympus for this solution to problems that had me dragging up all my old Merchant Marine invectives. Time was when Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 by and large worked well for me, an amateur building and managing several sites. Then Adobe entered the scene with its big-dollar complexities, buying up Macromedia Dreamweaver and destroying its relative simplicity. It was the beginning of the end of my tranquility. Recently I even dumped Adobe CS4 ("state of the art", "truly professional web builder", blah and blah). It was beyond me, and all my efforts over many days led mostly to terrible results and disappointment. As far as I am concerned, Adobe CS4 is for HTMLers, or those close to; in fact, I reinstalled my Macromedia Dreamweaver and worked with some success, only to find that of course Snow Leopard was clawing hell out of it. Another day or two and I would have gone completely bald; that is until KompoZer! I knew almost immediately it would work when I was easily able to open up my various HTMLs through KompoZer (Neither Sandvox nor iWeb, for instance, would open up my HTML pages made in other applications.) Very quickly did I react successfully to its quite intuitive interface. No doubt flaws will arise with this application, but I simply can't exaggerate my joy over finding it. Now I'll try gluing back the hairs I tore from my quivering scalp. In gratitude I made a small contribution and do hope you'll continue to update KompoZer. Obviously you people responsible for this are a crew empathetic toward those of us with some web-building experience who nevertheless are fluent neither in ancient hieroglyphics nor HTML. Thanks loads, merci beaucoup, efcharisto, gracias, danke, etc.!

9. On Thursday, March 4 2010, 16:09 by bigmeanmikerich

@Kazé, Heikki > The path to users' home directories in Windows Vista and 7 has changed from the old location in Windows XP. Whereas XP's homes were located in C:\Documents and Settings[Username]\

Vista and 7 now keep them in C:\Users[Username]\ This may change the behavior of your Windows installer if counts on Application Data existing within C:\Documents and Settings[Username]. On Vista/7, it is likely that with admin rights the installer could *create* this path, but it would not be associated with the user as expected. Just one possibility.

PS what syntax should one use for comments on this blog? Neither html dotclear's suggested wiki syntax seem to work, I just wanted to use some code tags. Totally unimportant, but I am curious.

10. On Friday, March 5 2010, 12:21 by Heikki Jussila

As a quick reply to your question, about installing. Yes it does always need admin rights if Installed into Program Folders. I am not a programmer, but I think that for some reason in that case the installer "tags" kompozer.exe for admin use only. Installing out of it user rights are given to the "owner" of the file and consequently it does not need to be run as an administrator anymore. The UAC (user account confirmation) comes out even if you are an admin. It does not work the same as root on NI*X.. By the way I found this issue since Kaspersky 2009 Firewall refused to open it saying that unless I'll open it with admin rights I am not able to use it.

11. On Saturday, March 6 2010, 15:43 by Gabriel Gaston Croft

KompoZer impresses me because of how it works well and free; with a very helpful group of people supporting via chat on IRC; Kaze and crew are remarkably concerned for web designers versus Nvu/other popular paid programs inconsistent updates (vs. *regular* KompoZer updates), support (vs. extraordinary kompozer IRC chat support, with blog+site support) and feature development (vs. see labs.kompozer.net please! :)

I encourage people to read Norman directly above, who wrote further on exactly how I feel. I specifically agree KompoZer is intuitive, empathetic to web designers, competitors are disappointing -- and I thank KompoZer for exciting me about web design again after feeling discouraged by my 'required' workflow for years.

P.S. @Norman: "digital Olympus"... is a beautiful way of putting it. I pray for & thank "whatever software gods exist" there for KompoZer too. :)

12. On Saturday, March 6 2010, 19:40 by kenzieB

KompoZer won't launch on my computer. (Q6600, 2 gRAM, winXP, SP3). Weird, because I've had no problems on other computers or this one when running Linux.

13. On Sunday, March 7 2010, 21:37 by westernsaddler

Hi, I have just upgraded to Snow Leopard and have downloaded a fresh copy of KompoZer and now I cannot open the CREATE button in the OPEN WEB LOCATION
I built my site using NVU and then KompoZer when on Tiger with no problems.

14. On Monday, March 8 2010, 00:31 by Cédric

@westernsaddler: Hi, it works fine here (MacOSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard)

15. On Monday, March 8 2010, 23:02 by Norman

Is there a way to color table borders when 1 or more pixels thick?

16. On Saturday, March 13 2010, 18:09 by IanG

Hi Kaze,

kompozer rev220, karmic 64bit, latest kernel

1 - open a html file with external stylesheet.
edit the html file in source mode, but do not yet save. *| appear in css file.
if you now edit the css before saving the html you get permanent *| in the css file.

2 - open a html file. the external editor button remains greyed out until the file has been opened in the source editor. ok, maybe the new source editor is good enough already to not need an external editor. (hopefully this is your goal)

3 - once switched to source editor, the css edit button is greyed out. i think this one is new from 0.8b3 to rev220.

4 - it would be nice if all the views, like css in sidebar, preview in main window could be 'sticky' between sessions.

5 - it would also be very nice to undock the source editor or split view dock to drag the one you are using off to one side of the main preview.

6 - the whole business of inserting and tweaking images is horrible. maybe some of this is just confusion between html and css battling it out for supremacy. basically you can insert and size an image with the dialogue box. but do not try to modify it thereafter via the dialogue. best by far to edit the css direct.

7 - from my personal point of view, why bother with the site manager when nautilus works so well - and is of course already familiar to the user - for shifting files around?

hope this helps,

IanG

17. On Sunday, March 14 2010, 00:15 by Kazé

Hi Ian,

glad you found out the rev.220 and gave it a try! Your feedback applies to 0.8b3 as well.

Doh! I’ve I fixed this "*|" stuff for the CSS editor’s “Cancel” button with the 0.8b3 release, but it never crossed my mind that this fix should be applied to the Source view as well. I’ve just committed a patch (rev.221) — thank you for this bug report, it was sharp and it saved me a lot of work.
Yes, I know I have to fix that. I still want to leave users the choice of using either an external text editor or the built-in one.
This is not a regression, it’s a feature: for technical reasons, the CSS editor can be fired in Design (wysiwyg) mode only.
Yes, the display mode (Preview / Normal / Tags) should be persistent for each tab, I'll try to add this to the next release. I hadn't thought of the CSS tab in the DOM Explorer sidebar, thanks for reminding me.
I admit it would be nice but I can’t afford to spend too much time on this at the moment. That would be a good idea for an extension.
Works for me: images are resized properly, either with a style attribute or width/height attributes, according to the “use CSS styles instead of HTML elements and attributes” pref. Please provide a step-by-step procedure to reproduce this bug. I admit the “Image Properties” dialog is looks terrible, though.
Well, depending on your window manager a built-in file tree can be handy to open local files. Anyway, I’d say the main point of this Site Manager is the right click > “upload” menu item — it’ll get more obvious when the current work on the FTP module will be finished.

Since you’ve tried this rev.220, what do you think of the “locked” Split mode? That’s just an experiment at the moment, but it’s one of the two solutions I have in mind to make the Split view more reliable.

Thanks a lot for your feedback — again, your report on the *| stuff has saved me a lot of time. :-)

18. On Sunday, March 14 2010, 12:20 by IanG

Hi Kaze,

inserting and tweaking images. i think this one applies to all versions:

insert an image in an existing paragraph at the left margin. size it in pixels constrained and it works fine. size it in % of window and it doesn't constrain. i've been getting around this by setting the size in pixels to the numeric setting i want in %, then switching the units to %. this works fine until i try to use image properties dialogue to edit the size of the image after having a look at the result. i have to switch back to pixels to adjust it, then switch back to % again to have a look at the result. aargh.

actually, to get the exact result i wanted, i've been inserting the image with the dialogue, then fine tuning size, margins, alignment and so on with the source editor - and of course studiously avoiding re-opening the image properties dialogue! (ostrich principle - if you don't look at a bug it can't get you)

using the locked split view for this sort of fine tuning works really well. click on the item you want to work on in the design view and you get a quick view of just the bit of code you want without any scrolling or fiddling about, edit it right there and see the results immediately. super! in fact, in combination with the pertinent css being visible in the sidebar this is about as good as it gets.

best regards,

Ian

19. On Wednesday, March 17 2010, 00:34 by Augusto César

Hello first I would like to parabenizalos kompozer that the project is by far the best visual editor I have ever worked in the free world, but would like to remedy a doubt, what is needed to work with php, it would be possible to attach a code editor free php in kompozer or improve the support kompozer php?

20. On Thursday, March 18 2010, 10:42 by putko

please, more info is needed from case
Friday, March 5 2010, 12:21 by Heikki Jussila

I would like to know more of this case.

Is it?
You install KompoZer into c:\Program files as admin
1. admin can use it
2. normal user cannot use it

Secod case
a normal user installs Komposer in his own folder
C:\User...

1. he can use it but
2. nobody else cannot use it

Or something else

21. On Thursday, March 18 2010, 22:18 by math_roger

I have tried to compile the source code for Windows XP, and I mark the following error:
------
Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Compiler Version 6.1.6723.1
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

link -NOLOGO -DLL -OUT:mozz.dll -PDB:mozz.pdb -SUBSYSTEM:WINDOWS adler32.obj co
mpress.obj crc32.obj deflate.obj gzio.obj infback.obj inffast.obj inflate.obj in
ftrees.obj trees.obj uncompr.obj zutil.obj ./module.res -DEF:c:/mozilla/modu
les/zlib/src/zlib.def -MAP:mozz.map -MAPINFO:LINES kernel32.lib user32.lib gdi
32.lib winmm.lib wsock32.lib advapi32.lib
LINK : fatal error LNK1117: error de sintaxis en la opción 'MAPINFO:LINES'
make[4]: *** [mozz.dll] Error 93
make[4]: Leaving directory `/c/mozilla/modules/zlib/src'
make[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/c/mozilla/modules/zlib'
make[2]: *** [tier_1] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/mozilla'
make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/c/mozilla'
make: *** [build] Error 2
------
I'm using Visual C + + 2008 Express Edition and if I could compile Firefox 3.6 (Gecko 1.9.2)

I could focus on how they are currently compiling KompoZer for Windows XP

Thanks

22. On Saturday, March 27 2010, 05:33 by ramcemp

hi, I first want to thank you for your wonderful work with KompoZer, I use and I really like, the only details I'd like to change in KompoZer is that the ruler does not respect the measures of code, and the code is cut the lines.

23. On Monday, March 29 2010, 00:24 by Yogi Savetman

The vertical bars in the following line is changed to the encoded form, %&C.

Code is used for counter. Problem with 0.8a4, 0.8b1 & 0.8b3. "Don't encode special chars" doesn't work.

24. On Tuesday, March 30 2010, 17:58 by golfsailor

Hi,
sourceforge doesn't work any other place to get the kompozer ?

25. On Friday, April 2 2010, 21:15 by Troy

I have been using kompozer to build lead capture pages for my IM biz and it works awesome, great job guys keep uo the good work.

26. On Friday, April 2 2010, 21:49 by Mac Dude

Hi, thanks for Kompozer! However, when I (on purpose or accidentally) close the main window I cannot open >any< new window. Also, no more Preferences. I have to close the app & start from scratch.

Can this go onto the list for fixes?

Thanks,

Mac. Dude

27. On Friday, April 2 2010, 21:51 by Mac Dude

Oops, sent too soon. Platform is Mac OS X 10.4.11 on a G4 Powerbook (but the bug is present on other Mac's as well).

M.D.

28. On Monday, April 5 2010, 20:59 by Pete

Hi,

I'm trying to download 0.8b3 for Windows. Each time I click one of the download links it takes me to a website called SourceForge and says that my download will begin shortly. It sits there forever and nothing happens. If I then click on the "direct link" it downloads version 0.7.10. Is there a way to get 0.8b3?

Thanks, Pete

29. On Monday, April 5 2010, 21:27 by @joao_neto

Congratulations for version!
Congratulations also for supporting this application so useful and that it was "dead"!
I hope you will continue contributing to Web developers with free software!

30. On Monday, April 12 2010, 12:23 by Jezza

Works great! I can see this app getting a lot of use.

Thanks!
Jezza

31. On Tuesday, April 13 2010, 04:00 by Woof

Hi there,

Thanks for this update. I had been using Kompozer 0.71 for quite some time. Previously I used Frontpage and felt at home with Kompozer immidiately. However due to to lack of updates over quite some time I had almost given up hope and thought the project was dead. So I'm really happy to see, there's a new version available. Just checked it out and it's a nice improvement to the old version. So far no bugs found. Thanks a lot and keep it up.
Best regards
Woof

32. On Wednesday, April 21 2010, 19:12 by Roger Barth

I am using Kompozer 0.8b3 and have found what I believe are a couple of bugs...with similar issues.

1. If I open a HTML document, delete some material (actually moved it to a NEW document), then paste in ASCII text, Kompozer does not allow me to format the added text unless I close Kompozer and restart it. I have tried closing the tab/file, but that does not fix the problem. I must close the application.

2. There seems to be a limit on the number of HTML files I can have open. The symptom is similar to the above problem.... I am unable to format the document.

Both problems have existed at least since 0.8b1.

regards,
roger

33. On Thursday, April 22 2010, 16:04 by Elender

wich dll's does kompozer use? i'd like to run on linux, but i'm not the root user. i need to copy de windows dlls to use the windows version on linux. please tell me.

34. On Tuesday, April 27 2010, 17:12 by Dave

Hi and thanks for all your hard work,

Just one problem so far - I can't insert the following text into my source code:

<div id="TA_excellent767">
<ul id="9DCko9rob4xG">
<li id="YubL359"><a target="_blank" class=www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_... House</a> rated "excellent" by 7 travellers</li>
</ul>
</div>
<script src="/img/spacer.gif">

It should appear as a "Tripadvisor" image logo but the image is not visible. Any ideas?

Thanks again,

Dave

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KompoZer 0.8b3

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